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Coral Snake
Posted: Jun 6 2004, 08:43 PM
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This is my latest reply in the debate i started at the Creation Evolution board. (To RetroSpector and EmmaPeel (jennyp at FreeRepublic).

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The only trouble with these models is that the trunks and main branches of the "gradulist" tree and the horizontal lines of the "punctuationist" tree DON'T EXIST as either living organisms or fossils.

Until there are GENUINE TRANSITIONAL FORMS (NOT just a few fossils that resemble what transtional forms might look like and usually in the WRONG part of the "geological collumn" at that) found from single celled organisms to mammals and birds in either living or fossil form then no less a person in your evo movement than CHARLES DARWIN HIMSELF said the theory is FALSIFIED!!!!

Sorry but "Cladistic" class mangling (Synapsid REPTILES are mammals) "embryonic recapitulation"and "punc-ek" WON'T CUT IT!!! These are only excuses to continue to use a FAILED THEORY to give "scientific" justification to RACISM, SOCIALISM, ANTI-SEMITISM, ANTI-CHRISTIANITY and today's immoral PORN, SEX, ABORTION, EUTHANASIA and DOPE CULTURE!!!

CHARLES DARWIN HIMSELF set the standard by which his theory was to be proved true (COMMON transitional forms at ALL levels of the phylogenic tree) and his theory has FAILED that standard.
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Posted: Jun 6 2004, 09:27 PM
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Don`t you think Sex is necessary? ;)


A theory exists to describe something the best way. Creationism can`t do that job (because it`s simply imposible to falsify Creationism).
And all facts prove Darwinism is the best theory (well, another scientific theory never existed...). And it isn`t falsified just by a few details that don`t fit in the picture. The basics are not touched by that. The core of the theory can`t be touched by that details. To falsify Darwinism you have to da a lot more than just finding out thet some Transitional forms are in the wrong Columm.
I`ve heard a lot about transitional forms in the right columm...

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By the way:
Racism and Antisemitism because of Darwinism?
Racism and Anti-semitism are much older than Darwinism (weren`t big parts of the Christian church the pushing force behind antisemitism for a long long time??)... and Darwinism shows you that all Racism is wrong. Becauso "Higher" or "Lower" forms of Life simply don`t exist in Darwinism. "Evolution" is no synonym for "Progress". Darwin never liked the word "Evolution" (because it is in the Dictionairies a synonym for Progress, of course).
GOULD gives a more exact description for that in one of his books (and explains also in that book that the disapearing of the Battering average .400 in baseball was a real progress... very interesting book - though I didn`t know anything about baseball up to then)
I know - you think about Hitler who used Darwin - but Hitler misunderstood the evolution theory (as many other people in history)

Anti-christianity?
Many christian people belive in god and in evolution. (the pope - for example)
I can`t see any Anti Christianity in this world. Not more than 200 Years ago... Religions were always hated...

Socialism?
no doubt - socialism has nothing to do with the evolution theory. Although I think that the Capitalism is much better than all economic systems the humans tried in the past, Capitalism is more like the fittest survives than Socialism. You know - no state really made it to build up the Socialism Marx and Engels imagined... it was always something different. (same with Communism)

Porn?
Huh? Do you really think that 200 years ago the people would have been less interested in Porns?

Abortion?
has a long tradition. Older than the Evolution theory. Sad but true.

Euthanasia?
has nothing to do with the evolution theory. In former times people just couldn`t survive. Now they can - but some don`t want to. Sad but true. But that has nothing to do with the evolution theory...

Dope Culture?
Well, the drugs that kill the most people were also 200 years before very in - Alcohol and tabac. That`s real dope culture. As old as the humans... Science has just given us other posibillities to get drugs -and we use them...
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Posted: Jun 6 2004, 09:56 PM
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When I said sex in that reply I meant sex as a constantly talked about object of worship replacing GOD. Money and power over others have become similar false "gods" of today's culture again ALL MADE BY EVOLUTIONISM!!!

Lets drop sex and concentrate on one of these other false "gods" MONEY.

In the form of Monopoly Capitalism that was created by EVOLUTION based survival of the fittest thinking that we have today in some corporations you win by tearing down your competition until they are out of business in the style of the evo version of T-Rex and then locking their customers into their products so that no new competition can emerge. Money is an object of worship replacing God and the soul reason for existance in this model of capitalism (Micro$oft is a PRIME EXAMPLE of this evo money worship think in capitalism and that is why my computer runs Linux).

In CHRISTAIN Capitalism based on Creationism you win by satisfying MORE CUSTOMERS than the competition and coming up with better products than the competition and you do not in any way try to deliberately put other companies out of business or keep new companies from emerging in your sphere of business. The
original Cnristian-Creationist foundation of Capitalism is the source of the old and
now seldom used motto, The customer is always right.
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Posted: Jun 9 2004, 06:00 AM
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QUOTE (Coral Snake @ Jun 6 2004, 08:43 PM)
This is my latest reply in the debate i started at the Creation Evolution board. (To RetroSpector and EmmaPeel (jennyp at FreeRepublic).

I'd temporarily lost touch with the crevo board.

Are you called coralsnake there, and what is the url for this particular thread?


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Coral Snake
Posted: Jun 9 2004, 08:18 PM
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I use the same name in some form on every board where I don't post as "anonomous coward". The urls
for my debates are:

http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com/?vThreadID=1433

http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com/?vThreadID=1404
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Posted: Jun 10 2004, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE (Coral Snake @ Jun 9 2004, 08:18 PM)
I use the same name in some form on every board where I don't post as "anonomous coward". The urls for my debates are:

http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com/?vThreadID=1433

http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com/?vThreadID=1404

Interesting and explains why I couldn't find the thing, to me the evolution/creation forum is evcforum.net.

Want to see a couple of interesting pictures?

Take a look at the lady in the bottom left image on JennyP's web page

http://jennyp.sentris.com/
http://jennyp.sentris.com/album/jkT01.jpg

and then at:

http://www.hcii2003.gr/general/keynote/
http://www.hcii2003.gr/images/speakers/jennifer-small.jpg


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Posted: Jun 10 2004, 10:45 AM
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Here's another. No idea when it was actually taken. This one is probably the real deal. I snatched by following a link she provided on FR once in relationship to her weight-watching obsession.

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Posted: Jun 10 2004, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE (ALS @ Jun 10 2004, 10:45 AM)
Here's another. No idea when it was actually taken. This one is probably the real deal. I snatched by following a link she provided on FR once in relationship to her weight-watching obsession.

Schneiderman, the other guy whose picture appears in the link I noted, is some sort of a confederate of JennyP's; she's mentioned his name in computer-science threads on FR.

Wish I had any idea who or what exactly Junior and PatrickHenry were...
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Posted: Jun 10 2004, 12:05 PM
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jennypee certainly has evolved, or rather DEVOLVED from looking at the pictures. :blink:
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Posted: Jun 10 2004, 12:06 PM
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medved-I have heard on much more than one occasion that patrickhenry is jimrob himself.
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Posted: Jun 10 2004, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE (Charity @ Jun 10 2004, 12:06 PM)
medved-I have heard on much more than one occasion that patrickhenry is jimrob himself.

That would explain a lot of things.
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Posted: Jun 14 2004, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE (Coral Snake @ Jun 9 2004, 08:18 PM)
I use the same name in some form on every board where I don't post as "anonomous coward". The urls
for my debates are:

http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com/?vThreadID=1433

http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com/?vThreadID=1404


Crevo.bestmessageboard.com appears to be little if anything other than the ordinary evo crew from FR.

Or am I missing anything??
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Posted: Jun 14 2004, 12:48 PM
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Medved I think so. (FR evo crew).
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